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What could be improved in the new 8a

I've seen a few posts saying that the new 8a was shit without telling why.


That's stupid, so here's what I think are the worst regressions:


1) the Main content column is not wide enough. The right column should be a little more to the right to leave more space to it.


2) The top of the site take too much space. A clean look and a new interface should not come at the price of less space for what's important.


3) The most frustrating point to me is that the news text is now cut at something like 100 characters. What was really great with 8A was how quick it was to look at the news and get the info. You now only get the first sentence of info. This comes with a few drawbacks, so let's separate this point into subs:

1) Not to infuriate anyone but the comment section of the news is most of the time garbage talk and Jens. I'd rather not look at it. Sometimes however, when finding the debate appealing, I used to open the post's page to view the comments. Now every time I want the information, I have to look at these comments.

2) I used to come here once a week to check the latest news quickly, between job shifts. Now if I do, It takes something like 10 times the time it used to to read all I've missed in the last week. That's because of all the clicking-in-the-post-to-show-it, then back-to-the-news-page, then scroll-to-the-next-post, `repeat`


4) The Latest-Videos column is too wide. In my (normal-sized) screen, it is almost as wide as the main content. Okay, this column contains from times to times interesting stuff, but,

1) There's no obvious way to distinguish what title goes with what video

2) In firefox at least, full screen is disabled, and the video is just ridiculously small. Every time I want to watch a video, I have to look it up on youtube (or open the developpers tools...)

3) why not take some space that's left on the right for that? Or make the column wider when a video is focused?


5) That's something you probably already realized, but since it's only a few css files...: What's that dark-light them? Dark for the left column, and white for the main content? Where's the logic. Of course, as a software developer, I'd rather uniformize to the dark theme, but really, I don't care as long as it doesn't stay that ugly. You're doing great css job both on the dark and bright side, but combining the two simply doesn't fit.


6) Really nitpicky thingy, but why do you put the date on the top right? Who even needs it? It looks like a first hello word -- print the current date job that got forgotten and stayed there.


Other than that, there's also the commenting malfunctionning (why is there two editors, that both don't work like expected?), the top right search that is almost impossible to quit, the long words in the right column that don't fit in width... And some more that I already forgot. Give me an email, and I'll send you some gifs demonstrating them.


Now, this website is not shit, and it has the best climbing database ever made. It also still gives interesting and worth-it news. It could simply be refined a bit.


You obviously made the same error as too many: you published the site until it was completely ready.

It doesn't seem like I can add a new climb to my logbook. I did a possible FA today and its not in the database and I get an error every time I try to add it and it wont show up in my logbook. I've already added other climbs since the new 8a was released. Can't think of any other reason why there would be an error other than that its a new route and there's no FA checkbox anymore.

i dont can see what my friends ar log in the loogbook.. and i dont can add new friends... and i dont can select my country only other countrys an global..

The score still does not get updated like in the old 8a.nu!!!??? What's so difficult about that???? Last time that this worked is 2 years ago.

One bug that I found is that name is not updated everywhere. Take for example this link: https://www.8a.nu/crags/sportclimbing/ukraine/zhytomyr/sectors/utjug/routes/pjanyjj. You'll see Viktor Pavlenko 2 times, but if you click on first profile, you'll see that actual name is Zhanna Pavlenko. And no matter how many times I change my name in a profile, it is not reflected everywhere. Even this post is marked as post from Viktor, but actual name in a profile is Zhanna. Also notice how I do not use newlines in this post - it just does not work. Every time I press Enter my cursor end up on the first line! (Firefox)

points from "go" asscent counts as the onsights ....thats quite funny

I think the new release has a big potential but... some of the features must be continued/sustained from the previous version. 1.messagebox ,2 friendslist&updates, 3 routes/boulder search, 4 alltime top ten list, 5 - latest asscents, 6- crag ranking - create your own ranking, 7- editing asscents - some times we add a n.n asscent without knowing oryginal name of the route - later we can not fix it.... thus there is so many positions of the same route in the crag list and mess a lot. I hope thats will happen in next few weeks :)

I dont normally post in the forums, but this update was pretty sad. I'm glad they released something, because if they hadn't I think more people would have left the site sooner, but obviously releasing something of this caliber before it is ready, will just lose said users anyways. I'm not a web developer, but design is my professional occupation, and the site made some "easy on the eyes" adjustments, however this information should be even simpler and easier to use. I think the long list of new issues has been well documented already, but I will reiterate some of it: 1.)Text too large. Lazy load function on the site is pretty sad for looking at log books and trying to review information. Too much scrolling for most of us who don't have over 100 ascents. Just tighten it all up. 2.) Why do I have to now input how many attempts it took me to do a problem. Flash, second go, red point and that's it (could honestly remove the second go option. if you didn't do it first go its a red point). If people want to write in that it took them 50 attempts, let them note that in the comments. 3.) FA should honestly just get its own circle color. Purple maybe? Remove the outer circle boundary and just make it one circle. Shrink it all up and simplify it. 3.) Cant edit the name of an ascent in the old 8a. 4.) ALLOW US TO EXPORT OUR PERSONAL DATA TO CSV.

Tanka Rhai
In reply to Radek Dydo

@Radek Dydo btw what means "go"? Is that the old "2nd Go"? I'm already afraid of having to add a new route while not knowing what all these things are meaning now...

Tanka Rhai
In reply to Tanka Rhai

AHHH! I see: "Go" is the old "one hang", now I found the explanation button. But they didn't transform the old "One hang" ascents into the new "go"...

I want a search function for the forumn And i cannot figure out how to change my E mail for my account

SUICIDE!


8a.nu has killed itself!

Can't follow Friends and Crags anymore :( Sad !

I add that now you don't have the possibility of sending/receiving messages to/from other 8a users.