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Vertical life integration is a mess

I spent a considerable amount of time this year cleaning up the listings at my local crags, including merging countless duplicate routes due to spelling and organization errors. Now that vertical life route listings have been integrated with the existing route list, there are pages and pages of duplicate routes. Surely there must be a way to only add routes that were not already present in the database? Specifically, the Ontario Canada crag “Old Baldy” had already been cleaned to the point that every single bolted line at the cliff was present in the database. Now there are pages of duplicates due to the vertical life integration. It’s the same situation for all the other crags as well. I find this very frustrating considering the hours I put in to clean up the listings. Looking for a resolution!

Hi Scott, we did not add anything where the name and the grade matched well enough to be sure to not merge two different routes with a similar name. In Canada specifically, we re-worked the entire crag / sector structure of the guidebook that is in the Vertical-Life app, which was a lot of effort and avoided creating a duplicate for every single crag in the database. That said, if a route name here and in the guidebook are completely different, then there is just no way for us to know and we added the route here (and in the app). The moderators work is very helpful and greatly improves the experience of anyone who seeks out the crag page that were worked on. Now there are new routes, and some are duplicates, sure, but a) they are few(er), b) usually one of the entries has very few ascents and so it doesn't appear for most, and c) they can be fixed. Our team is doing a manual cleanup of every crag for which we did the merge. Looking at Old Baldy, there are very few 'obvious' duplicates that found their way to the database as part of the merge. If you can more specifically point us to what should be cleaned up, we will do it. If it's easier, feel free to write to me at [email protected]

Thanks.