We all agree, I hope, that 8a.nu points system etc. is just for fun and motivation. That said, let me share this thought (which perhaps isn't new): I find "2ND GO" to be of little value because the amount of beta one has on a second attempt can vary greatly. One can be almost OS or already have lots of beta gtherd betweeen attempt 1 and attempt 2. Rather, the ability to send a route in one day (regardless of how many attempts) holds a lot more value! It takes a lot of skill, confidence and perseverance to quickly learn the sequences, dose one's energies and find the willpower to send a route the same day. I would therefore abolish "2ND GO" in favour of "In One Day" and give this a respectable amount of points (not 2!) for the effort! have fun!
true that 2nd go can vary between failing the onsight, getting straight to the ground and trying again with virtually no rest, and having a redpoint shot after a careful hangdog session where you might have reharsed the crux several times. but again, for "in a day" ascents, it should be way easier to do a shorter cruxier route in a day than a very long pumpy one,
at the same grade...
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strongest is able to climb more, and rest less. Ok, maybe. But there is another factor - I have the nearest crag at least 6h away by car (and I dont own one). In addition I have a really hard studies, so I dont have much time to climb outdors. Also, I live in Poland. We have winters with snow, so there are at leas few months off climbing outdors (travelling to another country takes a lot of time), so if someone lives in eg. Spain and have a lot of free time, good crag near home, he will earn more points not because he can climb more and rest less, but because other things. So, I think, there should be seperate ranking for "all ascents", and I know it wont be one I would be competitive in. One day ascents sounds nice, but there should be samething said about variations. For egzample, I you did some part of the route another day, you cannot say that was a one day ascent. It would be also nice, if you could do a ranking of multipitch routes, improve the way of reporting them (every pitch should be also included in single pitch routes ranking). Recently you have added the trad ranking. It would be nice to see the list of only trad routes on one's profile, with progress graph.
"In One Day" instead of "2ND go"