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If i can call this real on sight!?

Hi guys! I have one question for everybody! For example- you start to climb new 8b on sight and climb it with puting all the quikdraw on it ! Finaly you staying before the last one , cleep the quiqdrow and fill that by the cleeping rope you can fell down and you take the last quicdraw by hand and cleep it ! What do you thing- it is o.k. like on sight or not? Just remember that most of the road at least have the last carabiner or quicdraw on the top - this one 8b don,t had any , just speet!
Hi, I must say I am not sure what you mean! To claim an onsight you don't have to put in the quickdraws. If there is no quickdraw at the top you should climb to the last hold and mark that you could put in the rope. If you then reverse or fall down and bring up one quickdraw to clean the route, I think it's a valid onsight ascent.
i think that what jack climber means is that he did onsight the route putting all the quickdraws but when he got to the top, instead of there being a normal anchor as all routes have, there was only a spit, so he put a quickdraw on the spit but was afraid to fall trying to pull the rope so he instead grab the quickdraw with his hand and clipped it.
Ok, if you grab the quickdraw/anchor you have missed the onsight/redpoint. However, some years ago there was a tendancy to put up routes were the final move was to do a catch to the anchor, kind of ridiculous according me. There is a famous story of a celebrity who has onsighted an 8b and everyone watching him knows that he only has to catch the anchor but the climber thinks he should climb up to it and clip...so he misses the onsight. Check the Ehtics & Practice article
What I think Jack maybe means, and at least I think is a somewhat interesting qestion is: If you get to the top and there is no chain there, only two bolts, is it then considered a perfect onsight if you clip a quickdraw into only one of the bolts, clip you rope into this quickdraw and then sit back in the harness and take some time to enjoy your acheivement before clipping the rope into the second bolt via a second quickdraw. I think this sounds ok, after all that second bolt is only there as a backup, in case the other bolt should fail while lowering the climber, but one could also argue that all bolts on the route, i.e. both anchor bolts should be clipped before weighting the rope. What do other people think?
It is of course Ok to just clip one of the two anchor bolts. However, it is the crag that set the 'top' for the route not the anchor. Sometimes the anchor has been placed lower than the 'top' due to rope drag etc. We are mountain climbers not anchor climbers!