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Grade conversion

Can jens or someone else tell me why the 8a grade conversions rate the scandinavian grades harder than anywhere else? generelly one grade above everywhere else i've seen, e.g normally a norwegian 7- is 6b+, but here it is 6c... I don't want to overgrade my climbs, but don't really feel like undergrading either.... confused climber
Jens Larssen
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Grade conversion is no science. In Sweden, we always say that 7- is 6c... and I think it is the same in Norway.
Idar Ose
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Compared to Sweden the Norwegian graders are a bit softer . 6a = 6- ,  6a+ = 6, 6b = 6+ and 6b+ = 7-    To climb a Swedish 7- you should be able to do a Norwegian 7 I see that rockfax place 9- at 8a+ while in Norway  8a = 9-  But this is of course just perception of the conversions out there and i might be wrong.. 
Jens Larssen
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Rockfax is dead wrong saying that 9- equals 8a+ in Norway. Everyone knows that 9- is 8a. I Sweden we stopped driving on the left side in 1967 and some 10 years ago we started using the French grading system for sport climbing. It is time also you do the change in Norway :-)
Idar Ose
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I totally agree.  I try to use only french grades for my routes... but still have to explain to people that a 7c is harder than an 8- .. :S
so swedish and norwegian grades are different? Then there is no scandinavian gradin system i suppose. Thanks
Idar Ose
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The system is more or less the same..but routes are generally harder in Sweden compared to norwegian routes at the same grade . Try using the french grade. That should be right. 6a = 6-, 6a+ = 6, 6b = 6+, 6b+ = 7-  , 6c = 7, 6c+ = 7/7+ ,  7a = 7+ , 7a+ = 7+/8-  , 7b = 8- , 7b+ = 8,  7c = 8/8+ , 7c+ = 8+ , 8a = 9, 8a+ = 9-/9 , 8b = 9 , 8b+ = 9/9+ , 8c = 9+ , 8c+ = 9+/10-  (not established yet.. ) .. and so on... add a halfgrade for each french grade. And som use the norwegian 8-/8 grade .. but that is either a hard 7b or soft 7b+.