I just had an interesting discussion about chipping boulders the other day with a good boulderer.
I had the opinion that chipping happend not so often in the past, however. So the question is why this happens now more often? Is this because some guys want to climb better than they are able to?
The other guy had the opinion (and somehow this is quite interesting) that the medial interaction (and so esp. 8a.nu) could have increased the problem. Some guys want just to tick classical high-end-problems to collect points and to impress their sponsors.
I heard from some sponsors, that they even look at the page and rate their sponsored climbers out of their score!!! This cant be the right way as many extremly good climbers are not part of 8a.nu and even the rating is somehow confusing as there are more points for a guy climbing ten 7C's than for the other, that climbs one of the really high-end piece of 8C, for which he needs a year.
The conclusion however seems to be not to take it to serious esp. for the sponsors!
Whats all the matter about? Just go climb on your own limit and have fun with your friends! Where is the old groove left?
Hey I agreed with you.
I know a few climbers who overgraded their ascents just to win some more points??? Or just changed the date of their ascents.
I don't understand. Do we climb for fun or only to win points and say that you are better than X or Y ??? Who gives a fuck. 8a.nu is just here to have a little fun don't take it too seriously.
I've been climbing since 13 years and I saw how our sport had changed. I thought climbers were different and smarter than others, I was wrong.
Don't only focuse on climbing, it has also sex, drugs and heavy-metal...
with the 'bouldering boom' came alot of new climber/boulders on the scene, that brought a life and vitality to an areana that was previosly looked on as 'practice climbing.' with this new life injected into or sub-culture of climbing came alot of people who have not payed homage to the masters, and the spirit of our sport. john gill, the master, chipped one hold on one problem and forever regreted it. it left hime feeling empty. bringing a problem down to your level totally negates the self improvement factor that your looking for in trying to climb a harder problem. we need to understand, as frustrating it is falling off the same damn move over and over agian, that in the end the rock does not give crap about you! weather you pull your ass to the top or not that boulder will be there thousands of years after you dead, and has been there before all of human history.
Chipping holds is really sad! God/Nature has taken thousands of years to shape the rock in a certain way, to artificially alter this shows no respect for the awesome and wonderous forces that have shaped the world. Just think, Nature has taken millenia to sculpt those holds especially just for you and me to climb on and experience! Give Ma Nature a chance, leave something for future generations to climb after you and I are gone, and leave the chisel at home!!!
if you have problem with the route dont distroy it by chiping her!! tray something softer and let some other to tray it.
i dont angree with chiping.chiping routes are more like training than pure-nature climbing
if someone has problems with the holds or steps he can go to a gym were he can build a route the way he likes.
thanks.
Yes chipping is realy bad! I think this people arn't climbers, this people are assholes. A climber repect the rock and the nature and when a route is to hard he try it until he succsess o he went away but he dosn't CHIPP
In some cases a more homogeneous 7c with 1 or 2 glued holds will be much nicer than an 8b with just 1 hard move, but really in beautiful crags with plenty of rock it is not worth. Chipping a boulder is really of idiots.
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