I was looking at Dani Andradas scorecard. Does his route Novena Enimienda really equate to 9b? Why should 8c+ with an 8c above = 9b. Surely when you reach a point of fitness whereby you dont really get anymore pumped, doing another hard section doesnt make the climb significantly harder (ie from 8c+ to 9b!). Has this route been confirmed as 9b? Has Dani actually done a confirmed 9a+? He has tried LaRambla extension lots and Realisation but not done either. If any scorecards should be undisputable it should be those of the top few postions, they are the leaders of our sport.
just in the same way a pumpy 6c is made harder with a pumpy 6b+ extension-giving 6c+ or 7a ?.....this does not always follow but it seems logical to grade the whole thing harder.
Famous hard example:rage de vivre (buoux)8b + 8a+ = 8b+.
Or is it still 8b?
Always the same debate... The problem is that no one talks about the style of the climb : for the same grade, it is different, when you are pumped after a first section, to have crimps, slopers, static or dynamic moves...
And what do you mean by "+" ? Is it continuous, or is it a big jug that makes a good rest ? The rest position should also be "graded" : depending on this, a 8b "+" 8a+ can be either a 8b or more than 8c !!
8c+ plus 8c = 9b??