5.14 (8b+ and up) via gear?

what does it mean to go with natural pro??

to be sent with cams and nuts (etc) for protection, not with bolts and quickdraws...sorry for being unclear

Ok, clear now, thanx. In Valle dell'Orco -Italy- there's an 8b+ route sent last year by Didier Berthod from Switzerland; it's called Greenspit and it's a roof 12 m long, perfectly orizontal, with a small crack and only one spit at the belay. Berthod climbed it in traditional style.

Greenspit was done with gear, but he also had gear preplaced. i think the hardest route lead on gear, and placing it all on lead was done by Sonnie Trotter. The route is the East Face in Smith Rock, i think it is graded either 5.13d or 5.14a.

alan moore placed his own gear on lead- fathers day goes at 14a - ron kauk did some ridiculous line in yosemite but i heard it was pre-placed as well - matt wilder gave the south face of washington column 14a but i'm pretty sure he used a bolt either way these things are very impressive

it is a 8b+ somewhere

Whic 8b+ are you talking about??

The 8b+ is called father's day and is located @ Donner Summit in California. It is rated 13a on the bottom half and is then a bolted 14a crack, but Alan decided to do it all natural pro instead. I watched him send it and it was very impressive.