if so many climber spend so much time in the site talking about downgrading with no specific training...
i think it is more easy than 8a...and so FOR ME it is better to downgrade it to 7c+ !!!
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dear jens larsen i hope to see you soon trying KINEMATIX
7c+.nu, self translate man:
The world of free-climbing is already invaded of people that only think to the degree, now there is also an organism that sentence on the grades(that they make the others) and felt authorized to "pontificare" based on thousand of data or balls that climbers numerologi send from all the world. This situation homologous one and destroys the spirit of free-Climbing. DOWNGRADE THE SITE
This site is not stupid or boring.
Is the obvious test that at this point the free climbing it has been transformed in one single thing:one expression derived from the material world, where everyone of us must absolutely be beautifulst and more strongly perhaps in order to only succeed XXXX a littlr more.
I Think that afterlife of degrees is unjust saying from a person who doesn't have the level to comment one therefore beatifull climbing performance.
Whit Humility, a friend of Friend
Downgrade to 7c+.nu !!! immediately