8a comments on Andrada interaction

Many comments have been posted regarding, and questioning, the 1 000 8a & 8A First Ascent which are written in the Mr 8a article. We like interaction in the community, however we do think that any comments regarding Andrada should be initiated with some positive remarks what he has done for the climbing community.

If this 1 000 is somewhat true, everyone that has questioned this should think about what negative comments like this create both for themselves and for Dani.

Regarding the estimated 1 000 FA's which has been done by 8a.nu based on information from Andrada, this do not indicate that he has done FA's of 1 000 bolted lines. The following facts should explain some and maybe it is "ONLY" 500 bolted lines.

1. As we have written 8a & 8A's, this means that both routes and boulders are included.
2. Many routes do have two anchors, i.e. it is possible to pro-long an 8a with some five bolts creating an 8b+.
3. Sometimes two different lines are linked, creating a new route for the topo.
4. Sometimes you can add 2-3 bolts in the start or finish to create a new variation.
5. The information from Andrada was some 950 routes and boulders 8a and harder FA's which we rounded up to 50 % of the total of some 2 000.
6. In many topos you find two persons mentioned as the First Ascentionists.
7. There might be other alternative explenations...

To sum up, we like interaction and especially as nobody is allowed to use only a nickname, as in other forums. However, try to start with some positive remarks before you start the debate. This is something that the climbing community will win from. 8)

Note, we have not been discussing these seven points with Dani Andrada. This is just our quick thoughts and speculations by 8a.nu.